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OK, Candidates, What Do You Think of Gay Marriage?
In the aftermath of California's supreme court decision legalizing same-sex marriage, the media turns its attention to the presidential race ahead
An Advocate.com exclusive posted July 11, 2008
OK, Candidates, What Do You Think of Gay Marriage?

In the last few weeks several publications have made note of Barack Obama's and John McCain’s stances on gay rights. The Los Angeles Times ran a great piece about the candidates' differing but equally quiet positions, examining how both candidates made the announcement in a “muted” way. No press conferences, just announcements through the Internet; that's because neither one wants to take a prominent position on gay rights for fear of upsetting different contingents of supporters.

In California, which is likely to stay a blue state in November, there is little at risk for McCain. But the Times notes that being too eagerly antigay might repel swing voters elsewhere: “Like McCain's other recent gestures to align himself with the Republican Party's conservative wing, it risks turning off the independent voters whose support is crucial to his White House aspirations.”

At the same time, the piece notes that gay marriage may not be quite the lightning rod it used to be: “For independents, polls show, gay marriage and other social issues have dropped in priority as they have begun to fret over such pressing matters as surging gas prices, home foreclosures, and joblessness, along with the war in Iraq.” McCain is offering a “nuanced” plan, which opposes a federal ban but leaves it up to the states to decide, prompting Ellen Ann Andersen, a political scientist, gay activist, and author, to astutely note: “Federalism...makes most people's eyes want to roll to the back of their head."

Obama might have it a little harder than his opponent: He’s trying to sway evangelical followers who find McCain distasteful, while not trying to piss off his liberal base. The Democrat has also stopped short of being pro-gay marriage. In the past, he’s stated that civil unions will suffice.

It’s a move to the middle that the Seattle alternative weekly The Stranger lambasted in a scathing opinion piece (“How Do You Like Him Now?”) that puts the awful truth front and center: “As anyone who's paying attention knows, Barack Obama does not support gay marriage…. Yet there they were at Seattle's Gay Pride Parade on June 29, marching down Fourth Avenue under a blazingly hot sun -- scores of gay voters sweating as they held aloft iconic Obama placards that had been retooled in rainbow colors for Pride. Their implicit promise: We will vote for you no matter which way you move on our issues, because you're better than the alternative.”

The writer, Eli Sanders, ends the piece with a sad, but true, reality: “He believes the liberal base, after eight years of chafing under Bush and presented with his historic candidacy and a great shot at winning the White House, will, like those marchers at the Seattle Pride Parade, gleefully throw themselves under his bus. He's probably right.”

One of the big stories of the last week was the American Family Association’s boycott of McDonald's; the antigay group objects to the fast food restaurant’s support of “the gay agenda.”Several outlets -- from the very small (the political daily MichiganMessenger.com) to the very big (The Washington Post) -- ran the story about how the right-wing organization asked McDonald’s to remove its executive from the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, to which the fast-food chain has also donated $20,000. When Mickey D’s refused, AFA called for a boycott.

"Hatred has no place in our culture," McDonald's USA spokesman Bill Whitman told the Post. "That includes McDonald's, and we stand by and support our people to live and work in a society free of discrimination and harassment."

The Post report also notes that the AFA is the same organization that ran a somewhat successful boycott of Ford, which recently ended after two years, “after the automaker largely stopped advertising its Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover vehicles in the gay media. The association also has boycotted retailer Target for substituting 'holiday' for 'Christmas' in its advertising and the Walt Disney Co. for its 'embrace of the homosexual lifestyle.' " (Ford reps have insisted that all niche advertising was stripped during the economic downturn, not just gay ads.)

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  • Name: Xavier Chapa
    Date posted: 2008-07-15 8:31 AM
    Hometown: Hamburg, Germany

    Comment:

    Supreme Court is your rationale?!?!?! Obama supports Bush's faith based initiative, government spying, capital punishment, gun rights, and he still believes marriage is between a man and a woman. So remind me again, how is he more trustworthy than McCain to nominate a SCJ?


  • Name: Donny
    Date posted: 2008-07-15 7:40 AM
    Hometown: Philly

    Comment:

    no one cares about us!


  • Name: Eric
    Date posted: 2008-07-14 1:57 PM
    Hometown: Washington DC

    Comment:

    Will I vote for Obama even if he's not 100% in alignment with my views on gay rights "just because" he's better than the alternative?? You bet your bippy I will. Two words (repeated for emphasis). SUPREME COURT. SUPREME COURT. SUPREME COURT. Currently, there are four right-wing nutjobs on our nine-bench court. One more, and any hope of seeing substantial progress in our lifetimes could be in real danger. Who do you want picking your next Supreme Court justice? McCain??!! Perish the thought. If you simply must hold your nose to vote for Obama, I've got a clothespin you can borrow ... but don't sit this on out just because Barack isn't Barney Frank.


  • Name: Xavier Chapa
    Date posted: 2008-07-14 12:06 PM
    Hometown: Hamburg, Germany

    Comment:

    People please quit kidding yourselves that Obama supports gay marriage. Making gay marriage a states rights issue is doing absolutely NOTHING! If you all read the Advocate's last article: "Wisconsin Gay Couples Could Face Jail for Marrying in California" (2008-07-03) then please tell me how Obama's position to leave it up to the states helps gays? This is another election year where gays will be put to the side and we are left to decide with two spineless candidates unwilling to recognize equality for all americans. We need to redirect our energies away from the President this year and focus on bringing new congressmen and senators willing to take on our cause.


  • Name: K.
    Date posted: 2008-07-14 2:26 AM
    Hometown: Democracy

    Comment:

    Obama is against the ballot measure in California. He's essentially in favor of gay marriage.


  • Name: Mark
    Date posted: 2008-07-13 11:34 PM
    Hometown: Point Reyes

    Comment:

    I disagree. Obama's voting record is great, and he shows every indication of being extremely progressive once elected. I saw him on TV asked about gay marriage, and he delibertly left the door open to change his mind in the future in support of gay marriage. I hope he gets elected and does great things for gay rights - and still doesn't give an interview to the Advocate.


  • Name: Peter
    Date posted: 2008-07-13 2:53 PM
    Hometown: Bennington, VT/St. Paul, MN

    Comment:

    I'm a political sciences student. With Hillary you KNEW she was manipulative and you also KNEW where she stood and about how far she would move on an issue to do anything. I'm seeing Obama moving EVERY which way in an attempt to get voters behind him. I have NEVER understood why young people, racial minorities and sexual/gender minorities have been so keen on backing him. He has a good story, he seems to have good people behind him, but his politics don't benefit ANY of us-students, blacks, jews, gays, christians. He's the "new Deal" because he's Not married to a former president-that's it. Otherwise it's politics as usual without any experience in how to manipulate it.


  • Name: Howard Kaplan
    Date posted: 2008-07-13 11:35 AM
    Hometown: New York

    Comment:

    It is issues like gay marriage that, because of fear on the part of evangelicals and conservatives have gotten us eight years of George Bush. Why can't these people see the forest instead of the trees. Also, people you can't stop the clock. Tomorrow won't be like today as yesterday was not like today. Look at history, the only constant is change. Gay marriage and every other thing you would stop is going to happen. That is the history of the world.


  • Name: Subscriber
    Date posted: 2008-07-12 11:38 PM
    Hometown: California

    Comment:

    Obama's voting record clearly shows that he is superior to any other candidate who's ever been on the national stage. I won't if he feels screwed supporting us on almost ever issue and getting this kind of lack of support from the "gay establishment" like the Advocate....


  • Name: kerri
    Date posted: 2008-07-12 7:10 PM
    Hometown: new jersey

    Comment:

    these breeders need to pick a side instead of just whispering around the issue. they're going to have to answer the politically dreaded questions "how do you feel about gay marriage?" or "how do you feel about the future of gay rights?" time to pull your heads out of your asses and answer those tough questions ladies. The matter of gay rights is never going away boys, so man up and speak!!


  • Name: Beth
    Date posted: 2008-07-12 2:51 PM
    Hometown: Houston TX

    Comment:

    Didn't Obama say he was against the Ballot initiative? Or am I missing something? Why is piece of information not here? Because it conflicts with the idea that Obama is somehow a terrible candidate for gay rights? Let's remember that Kerry wanted to get rid of gay marriage in Massachusetts in 2004, Obama's stance is progress.


  • Name: USA
    Date posted: 2008-07-12 1:32 PM
    Hometown: Homotown

    Comment:

    Damn. Was Hillary any better? Obama's positions are ten times better than anything Hillary every did, and the Advocate can't find one nice thing to print about him.


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