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April 08, 2009

Antigay Ad Says a "Storm Is Gathering"

A new homophobic ad will soon be hitting the airwaves on channels like CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC, though some are calling it laughably bad.

The commercial, produced by the antigay National Organization for Marriage, shows a group of actors discussing how the "storm is gathering" because same-sex marriage has been legalized in four states. The fake doctors and church attendants discuss how new advances in gay rights will take away their "freedom" and make it impossible for them to discriminate against gays and lesbians. The ad will run in places like New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and California -- states on the front lines of the marriage-equality movement.

The widely read media blog Gawker panned the ad and showed tapes of the actors' auditions, which were less than professional. Gawker wrote that the commercial contained "infuriating" lies.

Human Rights Campaign spokesman Brad Luna released a press statement that asked, "What's next for the National Organization for Marriage? Will they hire legendary infomercial pitchman Ron Popeil to hawk their phony agenda? This ad is full of outrageous falsehoods -- and they don't even come out of the mouths of real people?"

The HRC has launched a website called EndTheLies that hopes to dispel the falsehoods in the commercial. 

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  • Name: Marcus
    Date posted: 2009-05-20 3:32 AM
    Hometown: Cape Town, South Africa

    Comment:

    Wow. I know this is suppose to be serious and all but I could not stop laughing. This is absolutely ridiculous. Same-sex marriage has been legal here for over a year now and I am still waiting for 'that storm' to hit our shores... it will never come. My heart goes out to all gay men and woman that can't get married (yet!). Keep fighting...


  • Name: James S. de
    Date posted: 2009-04-12 12:35 AM
    Hometown: Chula Vista

    Comment:

    There should be a counter ad starting in 1943 Hilters Germany, panning to the good ole US of A KKK era and eventualy the god h8's f@gs era of today and for good measure Matthew Shepards murder then add in a sound bite about love from Keith Olbermann.


  • Name: Ivan Sondel
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 5:46 PM
    Hometown: tallahassee

    Comment:

    This people are just delusional; they're sick. It warps my mind trying to figure out how they can justify intolerance and bigotry. Basically what they are saying is: "Gay and lesbian people are infringing on my rights to hate and discrimate - to practice my bigotry and intolerance. These people should all walk out into the ocean until their lungs fill up and.....you can figure out the rest. We'd be better off as a nation without them.


  • Name: Carol
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 5:26 PM
    Hometown: MO

    Comment:

    More fundamentalisim played out in this ad. Most people will see it for what it is, a continuation of control and manipulation of what they call the minority, LGBT.


  • Name: ozzy
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 3:33 PM
    Hometown: sacramento

    Comment:

    "A new homophobic ad will soon be hitting the airwaves on channels like CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC, though some are calling it laughably bad." Well, in California we've learn that the laughably idiotic sometimes vote in droves. But yeah, is bad, is interesting when they ad claims is taking freedoms away but yet they don't explain what. The argument of teaching kids homo science at school is wearing out. This ad reeks of religious propaganda specially since the Mormons are still under investigation for putting more money in prop H8 than what they declared initially.


  • Name: Kristy
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 3:23 PM
    Hometown: East Providence, RI

    Comment:

    "Rainbow Coalition?!" Haha! Which side are they on? Seriously, though, this is just sad. Who I marry really shouldn't have any impact on anyone else personally. It's ridiculous that this ad is trying to say that gay marriage is going to ruin people's lives! It's so stupid it's laughable! Unfortunately there are many people in Rhode Island (my home state) who will buy this crap, hook, line, and sinker.


  • Name: Roger Burr
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 3:18 PM
    Hometown: Marble Hill, MO

    Comment:

    If they're so interested in the 'sanctity' of 'traditional' marriage, why don't they take the money being spent on this ad and use it to address the divorce rate in this country; now approaching 53%??! In my 'neck of the woods', people get married and divorced, just to have something to do!


  • Name: Thomas
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 3:06 PM
    Hometown: San Luis Obispo, CA

    Comment:

    This is a frightening ad. Many people won't laugh it off the stage, but assume there are real, undetailed reasons to panic. We need to get this insidious garbage pulled.


  • Name: joe
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 2:36 PM
    Hometown: Tampa

    Comment:

    I agree with one of the previous comments. We should let these news stations know that we don't approve of them running these ads. They won't allow ads promoting equal rights for gays and they wouldn't allow ads discriminating against any other minority group, so why are they considering allowing this one? Do something. It's simple and easy, call MSNBC 212-664-4444, CNN, 404-827-2600, and Fox News at 888-369-4762 and let them know your disappointment.


  • Name: Rob
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 12:53 PM
    Hometown: Tempe

    Comment:

    Americablog has a link to the audition tape. I'd post the address, but Advocate doesn't like hyper linking in discussion threads. These ads are ridiculous but the making of is funny. Shows just how phony these things really are.


  • Name: C. Granger
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 11:46 AM
    Hometown: New York/St. Louis

    Comment:

    Travis - Right on Brother!


  • Name: Joe
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 11:19 AM
    Hometown: Fort Worth

    Comment:

    Don't underestimate the power of this ad. It may look stupid to us, but to some people on the fence, it could be a back-breaker. Our organizations need to counter this ad with truthful ones.


  • Name: torqueflite
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 10:37 AM
    Hometown: Colorado

    Comment:

    What's needed is a prompt advertising blitz by HRC or other marriage advocates, this time featuring married gay couples and/or those who want to marry. This didn't happen in California--no gay couples featured. Don't let the opposition dictate the discourse this time!


  • Name: Brian
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 9:58 AM
    Hometown: St. Louis

    Comment:

    A lot of you are being very flip and dismissive of this ad. Most people are not very sophisticated about the idea of same sex marriage. This ad makes them think they will be damaged personally by gay people. It feeds into their unconscious fears. Our tack as gay people must be to highlight how gay marriage is a positive thing with real benefits to society. Failure to do this was the major mistake of the No on 8 campaign. Stop being defensive, gay people, and get positive about who you and your families are.


  • Name: Travis
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 9:39 AM
    Hometown: Columbia

    Comment:

    They think a storm is coming? I say it's time for an all-out war.


  • Name: joe
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 9:03 AM
    Hometown: springfield

    Comment:

    This is funny/scary to watch! Did you see those actors? The lights are on, but not a soul in the bodies. Thing is, of course, if they view us as the threat, that doesn't say much for them, now, does it? I mean, if they truly view me as a threat, I see them as the weak-willed individuals who are the greater threat to society. And that's REAL scary.


  • Name: Darryl
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 8:49 AM
    Hometown: Harrisburg, PA

    Comment:

    Wouldn't it be nice if "Straight America" had to feel the real pain that we did growing up gay..... Afraid to hold hands with the one they loved or be able to legal rights to protect them. Yeah, I guess they have some real fears if we end up being treated equally as other human beings... This Easter I will say a prayer for those poor "Straight Folks" whose lives will change drastically by someone like me being able have equal benefits and being allowed to love my companion of 10 years.....


  • Name: Ginelle
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 8:32 AM
    Hometown: British Columbia, Canada

    Comment:

    This so called ad is so ridiculous, the "actors" talk about their rights being taken away. Gay people are not taking anyone's rights away, we are just asking for, and seeking equality. After thousands of years, we are standing up and we are saying we are not going to take it anymore, we want our freedom to live without fear of discrimination, oppression, hate crimes such as murder and having the living daylights beaten from us. If they want to speak of rights "taken from them" then it is about time they woke up to reality and realized "the rights taken from us"!


  • Name: Mal
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 2:52 AM
    Hometown: Wolfville

    Comment:

    Love that they're a rainbow coalition of antigays. How ironic.


  • Name: Jed
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 2:16 AM
    Hometown: Berkeley, CA

    Comment:

    Oh yeah, and it wouldn't hurt to call these guys out on this cynical Roveian-style of argumentation in which they try to co-opt our values. They are the ones coming into OUR lives, telling us who we can and can't marry. Same-sex marriage takes away freedom? Coming together in love? Are they serious? Same-sex marriage is about the freedom to love! This is beyond simple dishonesty; Nation for Marriage demonstrates utter contempt for the truth in forwarding these arguments - and I'm going to tell everyone who will listen.


  • Name: john in SF
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 2:05 AM
    Hometown: San Francisco

    Comment:

    This ad is ridiculous. I am glad that they are running this because they are going to get laughed off the stage. If you are stupid enough to believe in this bullshit then I have a bridge to sell you.


  • Name: Jed
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 1:47 AM
    Hometown: Berkeley, CA

    Comment:

    Debunking this crap is fine, but we can't let the opposition frame this issue. We can refute bad arguments against marriage equality all day long, but eventually we need to turn the tables. Let's talk about why marriage equality is RIGHT! What does America stand for? I thought we stood for freedom and equality. Same-sex marriage is about simple fairness. This is about respecting another person's right to self-determination. Let's talk about tradition - the American tradition of expanding freedom - the American tradition of raising each other up to full dignity and equality before the law.


  • Name: RickyAM
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 1:37 AM
    Hometown: OKC

    Comment:

    Wow! Its like the Stepford wives meets Focus on the Family! LOL!


  • Name: James Combs
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 1:13 AM
    Hometown: Las Vegas

    Comment:

    At the risk of sounding adolescent...that ad is just plain stupid. People who see that ad will just laugh at how cheesey it is.


  • Name: Barbra
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 12:58 AM
    Hometown: Houston

    Comment:

    Sometimes I think that the worst torture one could devise for these Narcissistic Nightmares would be to lock them in a room all alone for about three days. After about an hour, they would probably have their socks on their hands like puppets, just to have someone to lie to, just no contact.


  • Name: Barbra
    Date posted: 2009-04-09 12:47 AM
    Hometown: Houston

    Comment:

    Don't just pretend it didn't happen; that is rolling over and dying: get justice instead. (Don't treat God or karma as your servant, expecting the Lord of the Universe to avenge you. Lift a finger for yourself.) Expose the narcissist for what he or she is. It's your only defense, because it destroys the narcissist's credibility, thus restoring your good name by discrediting the narcissist's lies about you.


  • Name: Ben
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 11:42 PM
    Hometown: NY

    Comment:

    I'm appalled that CNN and MSNBC would run this ad. Would they run ads campaigning against the human rights of any other minority group? This article should include contact points in those "news" organizations where we can send our angry complaints.


  • Name: John
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 11:40 PM
    Hometown: NYC

    Comment:

    The truly terrifying thing about this ad isn’t that they use lies, but that their lies have some basis in truth. On HRC’s website, you can see the Hardball argument between Joe Solmonese and a member from the National Organization for Marriage; Solmonese did NOT do a good job arguing against the points brought up by their spokesperson. This isn’t something we can just fudge or write off as “lies.” This is the SAME thing that was done in the No on 8 campaign. People are afraid for their religious institutions, and there sadly have been cases where gay rights have directly attacked religious rights. The doctor in this ad was referring to the case where a clinic was sued for one of its doctors refusing to provide artificial insemination to a lesbian woman (mind you, while being perfectly cordial and providing an alternative doctor to do it). We can’t let them make this a battle where fair-minded religious people feel threatened, and ignoring their arguments allows them to do just that.


  • Name: Christine
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 11:11 PM
    Hometown: Chicago

    Comment:

    YOUR freedom?? YOUR freedom will be taken away?? Oh my. Oh my, my. How? How is this affecting anyone but the people that are fighting to be seen as equal citizens in this country? There are zero specifics in this ad! Give me one solid example of how a hetrosexual's life will be directly affected by two loving gay people getting married, I want ONE right that will be taken away from straight people. Attention hetrosexual Christian conservatives: YOU ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE RIGHTS ALREADY, nothing is being taken away from you, unlike loving couples in California thanks to Prop 8. I especially love the young girl saying "I will have no choice" like she's going to catch The Gay and be forced to get a gay marriage. AND the "rainbow" coalition. Come on, you can't take our rainbows!!! This is ridiculous. I really hope these actors got paid well to do this, and that it was enough to allow them to look at themselves in the mirror after doing this ad.


  • Name: Lance Glenn
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 10:47 PM
    Hometown: Victoria BC Canada

    Comment:

    Hey! I thought WE were the Rainbow Coalition! they can't take that away...and talk about gay voice...and I'm not sure I'd ever go to a Christian doctor for any ailment...it is laughably bad...


  • Name: Jonboy
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 10:35 PM
    Hometown: Winner

    Comment:

    Our side should produce an ad that directly follows theirs countering the comments made. I would support that.


  • Name: justalittleguy
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 9:49 PM
    Hometown: the world

    Comment:

    In daily life I see heterosexual married couples struggling to stay in touch with their children because both parent s work and often have to commute great distances. There are huge expenses raising children. Many heterosexual women were financially abandoned by their husbands. Even through homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet, I think most of them have a pretty happy, awesome life. Canada, for example, has had many homosexual marriages and one would be hard pressed to find any story that resulted in negative news regarding any homosexual getting married.


  • Name: Mark
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 8:52 PM
    Hometown: Wappingers Falls

    Comment:

    These television stations won't air pro gay ads because they say they won't air "controversial" commercials, yet they will air these lies! Everyone should contact these stations and demand they pull these ads. Would they air ads defaming blacks, Jews, women, etc.? Why are we fair game. Let's fight this!


  • Name: John Johnson
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 8:44 PM
    Hometown: Fort Collins, CO

    Comment:

    This is soooooooooo chillng. I am seriously creeped out here. And unfortunately, as Barbra stated, scare tactics do work. However, what happened in California has switched on a light. Many people who voted for Prop 8, now see that they were played by the LDS and others and made a mistake. People have been manipulated by fear for so long that they are saturated with it like a wet, dripping sponge and starting to say, "no more".


  • Name: Carol
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 8:43 PM
    Hometown: MO

    Comment:

    This is a sad commentary on what some Churches in America have taught their people. Nothing will happen to harm anyone in America if gay people have equal rights that we enjoy everyday of our lives as heterosexuals. The only thing that will change will eventually be their minds, and that frightens them to do hurtful things to families who are gay and their families that brought them up, nurtured them, educated them and instead of being able to say your're on your way, they've had to be told, be careful society will harm you if you're not careful. This is the United States?


  • Name: Tom
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 8:35 PM
    Hometown: Seattle

    Comment:

    What bugs me most about this is that there is no substance to the ad. It's merely assertions made by talking heads without any concrete or illustrative examples. I'm all for freedom of speech--people can think what they want to and buy all the airtime they want to expound on those beliefs. What I can't stand is shoddy argumentation that plays on nebulous fears of change, difference and the Other. You can't get much more nebulous than storm clouds, can you?


  • Name: David
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 8:27 PM
    Hometown: Lubbock

    Comment:

    The real troubling thing is there are fools out there that will here and see this ad and actually believe it. Eveyone who can should post as much as you can every where you can to shoot this down. Doing it here doesn't help. Anyone who will read it here already knows the idiocracy of the ad. We need to reach out and debunk it where THEY are not where WE are.


  • Name: Barbra
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 8:14 PM
    Hometown: Houston

    Comment:

    Hello chin, I hope my knowledge put some personal ghosts and heartaches to rest. When this is the motive, what happens when you try to defuse conflict, when you try to appease? The narcissist sees that as a sign of weakness, as sign of backing down. It just makes him/her bolder. This is no testing run at you anymore: now he or she is serious about running you over. He or She sees your "weakness" as REASON to come on stronger equals to get madder and even more impossible. It's how he's or she’s controlling you. Don't love and trust anything that has a charcoal heart.


  • Name: James Somerton
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 8:02 PM
    Hometown: Halifax

    Comment:

    I personally liked the girl who said "I will have no choice". Im guessing she thinks she'll need to become a lesbian if these laws are passed. This whole ad might as well have been produced in favor of gay marriage to how stupid and backward the opponents are!


  • Name: chin
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 7:56 PM
    Hometown: seattle

    Comment:

    Barbra, thank you for that. That's the most accurate and insightful thing I've heard about narcissists, trolls, and generally difficult, combative people. They thrive on conflict and they feed off its chaos in order to dominate. It's not just attention seeking, it's deliberately controlling behavior. Fundamentalism is a "fundamentally" narcissist phenomenon.


  • Name: Barbra
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 7:27 PM
    Hometown: Houston

    Comment:

    In other words, trying to smooth it over, trying to appease the narcissist just backfires, making him/her more aggressive, not less aggressive. So, don't do it. This is just one of many examples of how normal human behavior backfires in Wonderland, simply because of a narcissist's alien mentality.


  • Name: Dan
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 7:27 PM
    Hometown: Austin, Texas

    Comment:

    Mr. Luna should take his statement a step further and specify what the lies in the ad are and why they are untrue. Marriage equality doesn't take away the rights of anyone portrayed in the ad. It simply allows all adult citizens to marry the person they love and to have the protections that come with marriage. The ad may be laughably bad, but we know from California that campaigns of lies can be effective.


  • Name: Barbra
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 7:25 PM
    Hometown: Houston

    Comment:

    This isn't just arrogance. Those creatures make a kind of living condition reflective of their nature. It's a animalistic & horrific reality in which you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, because they are being deliberately impossible to please.


  • Name: Barbra
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 7:23 PM
    Hometown: Houston

    Comment:

    Narcissists and Conflict One simple but easy-to-forget thing about narcissists is that, unlike normal people, they don't mind conflict. They enjoy it and come alive. Conflict makes normal people uncomfortable. We try to minimize it in our dealings with others. Oddly, we love it in fiction (Conflict is the gunpowder of fiction, and it's near relative - controversy - is the gunpowder of journalism. Maintaining constant conflict is the secret to storytelling success). But note that this is "safe" conflict. In real life we hate what we love to see characters go through in fiction. Narcissists have a whole different attitude toward conflict. They use it strategically to manipulate. They seek conflict. They become impossible people, flying into conflict with you over anything you think, say, do, feel, or wear. As if THEY have the right to determine what you say, survive, live, think, do, feel, or wear.


  • Name: CHRIS
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 7:21 PM
    Hometown: ST ROBERT, MO

    Comment:

    Theyr'e all GREAT actors, because they all said what they said and actually kept a straight face!!!!! Now I know not to play poker with any of these guys, because I'll LOSE!


  • Name: Shane
    Date posted: 2009-04-08 7:15 PM
    Hometown: Memphis

    Comment:

    The video says that because gays are wanting equality it is goin to change the way they live. So I say give me any specific way it is goin to change the way you live in a negative way ? I will tell you that your lies and hateful speech and taking away rights (like in California) HAVE changed the way some people live in a negative way. So I say again, name something specific ?


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