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May 28, 2009

Obama in L.A., But No Prop 8 Comment

A Democratic fund-raiser at the Beverly Hilton hotel, located in a rush-hour gridlock zone in Beverly Hills, drew several different groups of protesters Wednesday.

As gay activists and antiwar protesters chanted along Wilshire Boulevard, bringing traffic to a snail's pace, President Obama addressed the celebrity-packed crowd inside the swanky hotel. Without identifying which group he noticed, Obama joked about one of the protesters outside.

"One of them said, 'Obama keep your promise,'" he said, according to The New York Times. "I thought that's fair. I don't know which promise he was talking about."

Throughout the 2008 campaign, then-senator Obama voiced his opposition to California's anti-gay-marriage measure Proposition 8 while still maintaining that he supported civil unions over marriage equality. He also pledged to repeal the federal law barring openly gay and lesbian service members from the military, and endorsed an antidiscrimination law and a handful of other gay-related legislative actions.

However, during the president's trip to the Los Angeles area, he avoided talking about the state supreme court's decision to uphold Proposition 8, which was handed down the day before.

Keywords:  Barack Obama  Prop 8 
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  • Name: wafuu
    Date posted: 2009-08-09 7:04 PM
    Hometown: Japan

    Comment:

    To preserve his political capital, Obama backed away from DADT. Brave, earnest, patriotic gay members of the military would have been thrown a lifeline as a result. The county, as a whole, would have had a reason to smile. What did he do instead?


  • Name: Tyler
    Date posted: 2009-05-29 2:57 PM
    Hometown: San Luis Obispo, California

    Comment:

    I think this is being completely taken out of context, what's not in here is the whole speech and when you watch it, you can hear that Obama says in his speech at the podium that when he drove up he saw protesters, but couldn't see or hear what they were protesting, all he saw was some sign held up high that said, "keep your promise". Now imagine you see that in the distance, you don't know what they're protesting. This is a man who moves from city to city where their are herds of protesters for every cause. Yes, Prop 8 is a cause that's close to our or your hearts, but for him, he's got a whole list of things he's trying to fix, so let's just cut him a little slack. He's come far for G&L rights in comparison to other Presidents, we now have our very own section on the White House website, let's not make him an enemy just yet.


  • Name: eve
    Date posted: 2009-05-29 12:13 PM
    Hometown: LA

    Comment:

    Paraphrasing "Tom Tomorrow", many of us have had IMAGINARY conversations with Obama where he promised certain things that are dear to us, like support for gay marriage. Well, he never did, in fact, the opposite is true: he publicly said the same thing like Miss California. Gay marriage is the last winning issue that the Republicans have. Obama will not let this issue become his downfall. Thankfully he's not a rabid anti-gay and he's apparently neutral, letting US do the work that WE need to do. Now I'm going to talk to my friend the fairy queen, maybe she can help us with her magic wand.


  • Name: Tim
    Date posted: 2009-05-29 10:04 AM
    Hometown: New York

    Comment:

    “More out of control and show our anger and rage”? Just think about that statement. Instead of continuing to work to increase the public support for LGBT rights, we should become rabid? We should appear irrational? In other words, we should potentially lose all that we have worked so hard to establish? There have been times when this strategy has worked, especially during the early years of the HIV/AIDS crisis. Do you actually think that the current situation is a dire as the unexplained, untreated deaths during that time? We are not waiting for “religious bigots to confer on us a few rights.” We are waiting for the rational center to continue to shift, as they have been doing for years.


  • Name: Tim
    Date posted: 2009-05-29 10:02 AM
    Hometown: New York

    Comment:

    Obama ex machina. Why is it that people think that Obama can wave his magic wand and make everything alright? He is not our father, nor is he a dictator or the Messiah. He is but one branch of a three branch government and his true power rests in the public’s perception of his legitimacy. Without that he has little power. Sure, in some cases he could sign an executive order. In many cases, an executive order would be considered a misuse of power – and chip away at this legitimacy. if we want our civil rights – and if we want them to be permanent – we have to build public support. Just look at the example of California. The courts came to one decision and the public – as a backlash – came to another decision. Now in California the LGBT movement is working to shift public opinion. Not only is that what needs to be done; it is the ONLY way to get it done.


  • Name: Tim
    Date posted: 2009-05-29 9:56 AM
    Hometown: New York

    Comment:

    �More out of control and show our anger and rage�? Just think about that statement. Instead of continuing to work to increase the public support for LGBT rights, we should become rabid? We should appear irrational? In other words, we should potentially lose all that we have worked so hard to establish? There have been times when this strategy has worked, especially during the early years of the HIV/AIDS crisis. Do you actually think that the current situation is a dire as the unexplained, untreated deaths during that time? We are not waiting for �religious bigots to confer on us a few rights.� We are waiting for the rational center to continue to shift, as they have been doing for years.


  • Name: carol pryce
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 11:02 PM
    Hometown: las vegas

    Comment:

    "What promise" --just like all the rest, including Clinton. E mail the white house today. And while you are reading, be sure to vacation in New England for the next few years. Las Vegas is Nevada is not minimally welcoming to gays. Boycott my state to get their attention! God forbid one of a couple need medical care whilie here.


  • Name: mike
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 10:40 PM
    Hometown: cincinnati

    Comment:

    We're not asking Obama to have a drink in a gay bar. All he has to do is use some of the influence that we elected him for to promote fairness for all. We are not whining. We have been discriminated agaisnt for decades. He could give us equal rights so easily. He is very powerful as president. His silence is very hurtful and we are the ones who continue to suffer on a daily basis. Gays must become more out of control to show our anger and rage. Nothing will ever happen if we continue to be the good little gays who are patient and waiting for the religious bigots to confer on us a few rights to shut us up.


  • Name: Tim
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 10:09 PM
    Hometown: New York

    Comment:

    I’m as frustrated as the next person – we’ve fought for decades on all fronts to advance LGBT civil rights. Due to DOMA and other discriminatory practices, my foreign partner and I have lived apart for years. That said, I support Obama. How many presidents have come into office to face economic, health, and immigration crises, not to mention the resurging threat of a new nuclear menace? How about giving him a break; he's only completed 8% of his term. To top it all off, he faces a Republican party that is willing to cut off America's nose to spite its face. It would be even worse if LGBTs were willing to cut off our own nose to spite our face. Every day public support grows for LGBT rights. Keep in mind that we are only about 5% of the population and we need public support. In this time of multiple crises, let's not lose this growing support by crying that we suffer more than others. If we want others to have empathy for us, we have to have empathy for them too.


  • Name: David
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 9:25 PM
    Hometown: Seattle

    Comment:

    ... see, given context, does that mean he doesn't know which of his broken promises the person was referring to? Kind of mixed messages there. To be fair, he has said time and time again that he is against gay marriage. As unfortunate as this is, and as much as I would like to see him change his mind and begin supporting marriage equality, it is not surprising that this is the sort of response he has. I'm not sure I'm necessarily understanding the response to Lynn, other than the obvious ignorance regarding naturally occurring animal behavior. Whatever she meant by it, I'm all for getting the issue of marriage equality taken to the Federal level and being done with it once and for all instead of this state-by-state crap. I just think I want a different outcome than Lynn seems to want. Sure, it's not practical, and probably will be a while before that is a possibility, but I'd still like to see that too.


  • Name: Alex
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 9:19 PM
    Hometown: Orange County, CA

    Comment:

    I say all LGBT people do a tax revolt against the State of California! For denial of our rights!


  • Name: Howeirdo
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 8:24 PM
    Hometown: RS

    Comment:

    Which promise?...that's right up there with "nope,no WMDs under here" DISPICABLE!


  • Name: Rachel
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 8:16 PM
    Hometown: New York

    Comment:

    Lynn - go stick your head up your ass. Or maybe I should say - get your head out of your ass.


  • Name: Laurent
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 8:14 PM
    Hometown: Ottawa, Canada

    Comment:

    Lynn, what rock are you living under, it must be near the Le Breya tarpits, you state (by the way animals of the same sex do not mate nor do they reproduce I guess Mother Nature got that wrong to). It has been observed that all mammals practice same sex attraction including dogs and cats. They make the best foster parents for offspring that for one reason or another are abandoned by their parents. Eerily similar to human beings wouldn't you say. And as for Obahma, which political promise hasn't he broken, I sit to the North and don't see any difference yet from him and President Bush, Guantamo is still there, DADT and DOMA are nowhere close to be recsinded and Equal Protections cannot get passed by a democraticaly controlled Senate. His appointees are the same stupid mistakes of their predecessors. And our stupid gov. is about to get thrown under the bus while stil protecting oil supplies.


  • Name: Lynn
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 7:26 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    He dosen't need to comment on Prop 8 since he already made it clear that he supports civil unions what else is there to say. this is and issue for the U.s. Supreme Court to decide. California do not need to waste the money raised to campaign and vote on this issue again He doesn’t need to comment on Prop 8 since he already made it clear that he supports civil unions what else is there to say. This is and issue for the U.S. Supreme Court to decide. California does not need to waste the money raised to campaign and vote on this issue again for it to be contested again. Ever heard of a dog chasing his tail (by the way animals of the same sex do not mate nor do they reproduce I guess Mother Nature got that wrong to)? Take it to the U.S. Supreme court and be done with it doing this state by state is an unnecessary distraction from more pressing issues that are equally and more important.


  • Name: doug
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 7:25 PM
    Hometown: Va. Beach

    Comment:

    the only place more homophobic than DC is Hollywood.


  • Name: Joe
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 6:23 PM
    Hometown: Fort Worth

    Comment:

    What a jerk! And the Hollywood types who laughed at his "joke" are jerks too.


  • Name: Patrick C.
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 5:38 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles, CA

    Comment:

    That comment is just like a typical politician...but wouldn't it be real funny also if he ended up with only ONE TERM!! As I suspect, many in our community will also IGNORE him in 2012!!


  • Name: Lynn Elwood
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 4:13 PM
    Hometown: Ogden, UT

    Comment:

    "I don't know which promise he was talking about." Take your pick Mr. President. Closing Gitmo, revoking the military ban, repealing DOMA. So many promises, so little progress...


  • Name: Chris Sullivan
    Date posted: 2009-05-28 4:11 PM
    Hometown: Chicago, IL

    Comment:

    To date, Obama has only given words and token symbolic gestures toward the GLBT community. If he does not respond to this decision, by his silence, he is endorsing it. ... and there will most definitely be a price to pay for that - greater than he realizes right now. Unlike most of America, the GLBT community has a long memory. It was quite convenient that he decided to announce his Supreme Court nominee of tha day he KNEW the CA Supreme Court was handing down its decision. We're watching you Obama and to date, you have done vitrually NOTHING for our community! I wonder how he would feel if interracial marriage were put up to a popular vote!


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